Posts by Nathan Natas

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Bin Laden Sending Bomb Ship Into London?

by Englishman in

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all the uk news channels are full of reports about a ship being detained off beachy head, en-route from mauritius to the port of london.. .

main concerns revolve around the danger of a cargo ship containing either anthrax or explosives entering into the heart of london via the river thames.. more here: http://www.skynews.co.uk/.

englishman.

Nathan Natas

Hi E-man,

No you didn't!

I'm kidding... there's a kind of firework that used to be sold in the USA called 'cracker balls' - they were about half the size of a pinky nail and inside had a very small amount of sugar, pottasium chlorate, and sand. Just throwing them on the ground was enough to get them to pop.

I didn't say that sugar could not be made to explode, but the amount of power from such a mixture, while impressive, pales in comparison to ANFO, and is so sensitive that it would be dangerous for anyone with nefarious intent to use it lest they meet Allah earlier than intended. One additional disadvantage of NaClO3, if I recall correctly, is that it absorbs water from the air over time and a damp mixture might be hard to get going.

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SORRY GUYS

by ricoananas in

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sorry to shout, guys & gals.

apparently jehovahs-witness.com is just another internet scam, not much different from jw itself.

i tried to delete a thread which i do not want to keep in existence, and the admin keeps telling me i can't do that.

Nathan Natas

Hey Rico,

You may never get this, but you can EDIT a message you've posted, which can be used to effectively de-fuse a thread. Just remove everything you typed in and replace it with "<DELETED>".

I'm sorry this got you so annoyed...

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Bin Laden Sending Bomb Ship Into London?

by Englishman in

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friends

all the uk news channels are full of reports about a ship being detained off beachy head, en-route from mauritius to the port of london.. .

main concerns revolve around the danger of a cargo ship containing either anthrax or explosives entering into the heart of london via the river thames.. more here: http://www.skynews.co.uk/.

englishman.

Nathan Natas

Hi SS,

Sugar burns, so it can be used in pyrotechnic formulas. Mixed with the right things, it can be explosive, but the amount of energy is far less than that obtained by other mixtures that are just as inexpensive. The "problem" with sugar in these mixes is that the sugar molecule contains a LOT of water, and the water doesn't contribute much at all to the BANG.

The "Ka-Fucking-BOOM" site is pretty amusing, but some of the "information" I've seen there is either flat-out incorrect or so dangerous that only a soon-to-be-fingerless idiot would try them.

"World's FUNNIEST explosive formulas"

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Will this hurt?

by PollyAnnaBanana in

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just wanted to see if this works!

gotta hide out -- right now the judicial committee is after me!

and everybody i know and love is a witness.

Nathan Natas

Yes, it will hurt, at least a little.

...but you'll survive the hurt and be stronger for it.

"Pain is the feeling of WEAKNESS leaving the body!"

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Bin Laden Sending Bomb Ship Into London?

by Englishman in

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friends

all the uk news channels are full of reports about a ship being detained off beachy head, en-route from mauritius to the port of london.. .

main concerns revolve around the danger of a cargo ship containing either anthrax or explosives entering into the heart of london via the river thames.. more here: http://www.skynews.co.uk/.

englishman.

Nathan Natas

Wow, I hope this comes to a safe end.

Other port cities around the world have expresssed fears of just this sort of event. In fact, I wonder to what degree the media may have inspired such an action, publishing articles like "How To Load A Tanker With ANFO And Destroy A City." The effect of such a detonation would rival an atomic bomb, and doesn't require much at all in the way of specialized knowledge or technology.

Ammonium Nitrate in crystalline form would not look much different than sugar, and a small amount of sugar in an ANFO mix wouldn't degrade the effectiveness of the ANFO by much, as anyone familiar with "caramel candy" amateur rocket fuel might guess.

That's why these guys have got to be hunted down and assasinated.

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I want your ideas please!

by ballistic in

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i would like to use my web space as an ex-jw site.

i don't want to run a message board, or duplicate what other sites already do.

i'm asking - what would you find usefull or think would help others most.

Nathan Natas

Oh, sure, you could follow some high minded ideal if you really wanted to.

But if you want eyeballs, give them "The Girls Of Bethel" and "I Was A Pioneer Prostitute" pictorial essays. In fact, skip the essays...

What's wrong with horny? As they used to say in 'Nam, "When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow."

"Ho - Ho - Horny Christmas, everybody!"

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Police Officers and JW Judicial Committees

by LDH in

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voltaire posted something that made me start thinking about judicial committees and the rights an accused has when summoned by one.. basically, here in the us if you are arrested, usually the police officer or arresting agent will read you your miranda rights.

"you have the right to remain silent.

anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

Nathan Natas

Hey Rico, I like the way you wrote that up!

No, Lisa, I have to politely and non-confrontationally disagree with you. Surely you are not suggesting that Miranda applies to the Grand Theocrats serving the Invisible King, do you? Where are these rights spelled out? The Bible doesn't count, because we can't understand the Bible without a Watchtower representative at our side.

So, while your list of "rights" is biblical:

What are your rights as a JW?
1. You don't have to appear
2. If you do appear, you don't have to answer any questions unless you choose to.
3. You have the right to defend yourself.
4. The two witnesses (NOT ONE) who accused you must be present. (Think about it: the Bible says 'at the MOUTH of two witnesses') You have the right to question the two witnesses.

(By the way, I notice that a person does not have a right against self-incrimination. Imagine refusing to answer a JC question!)

I would say that that is THEORY and that the rights do not exist in FACT. I wonder how many disfellowshippings or reprovals have ever been reversed on appeal because of procedural irregularities?

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FROM THE TOP DOWN

by ricoananas in

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jt's comment has got me thinking that just as the u.s. government is going to be going after terrorists and their entities relentlessly, that perhaps the u.s. also should make it against the law to have or be a member of any religious organization that functions "from the top down", or undemocratically.

i especially have a certain theocratic terrorist entity in mind.

Nathan Natas

I think it is interesting that C.T. Russell originally structured the organization in a "bottom-up" style. If I recall correctly, it was Joe "Good Times" Rutherford who, realizing what a wonderfully effective snare and racket he could operate, began the changes that give us what we see today.

Perhaps in an alternate reality in another dimension Russell's original intentions (and his Last Will & Testament) were abided by. I wonder what the borg in that alternate reality is like? I'll have to inquire of a metaphysician, I guess...

Of course, we do have the International Bible Students even today... but I'm not familiar with them or their problems - and not particularly interested in spending my time researching them too seriously. If anyone can provide a 'capsule summary" of the organization and the problems of the bible Students (particularly anecdotes from FORMER members) I would find that an interesting read.

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Let me help you

by JWMAN in

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calling all lost sheep!

it is not too late.

i have been an observer of this site for some time now.

Nathan Natas

I nominate METATRON for "Prophet Of The Week"! Verily he spake thus:

Let me guess what your help consists of:
Empty promises
Platitudes
Threats that "the End is Near"
Would that be about right?
metatron

JWMAN has demonstrated himself to be a lying steaming sack of equine dung - no offense intended to any horses out there.

"If Mamma Cass had shared her ham sandwich with Karen Carpenter, they'd BOTH be alive today!"

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Police Officers and JW Judicial Committees

by LDH in

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friends

voltaire posted something that made me start thinking about judicial committees and the rights an accused has when summoned by one.. basically, here in the us if you are arrested, usually the police officer or arresting agent will read you your miranda rights.

"you have the right to remain silent.

anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

Nathan Natas

You have righs when it comes to dealing with the Smelders. Don't let them 'Good Cop/Bad Cop' you.

I'm not sure, Lisa. For the sake of argument, let me say, "No you do NOT have rights if you are called before a Judicial Committee."

"Rights" do not exist free floating in space like the law of gravity. They are a social contract - rules that the participants agree to abide by. The Jehovah Sock Puppet as operated by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society has not granted any "rights" to the peons.

The Judicial Committee is a metaphysical "theocratic" process controlled by a sock puppet vested with omnipotence by the participants, not a legal democratic process with controlling legal authorities.